and then our exile

Sunday, June 04, 2006 at 2:48 p.m.
i have four absolute heroes in academia. andr*w g*w; dav*d b*rnet; fr*nca b*ag; j*seph bu*js. honestly, take their courses.
we could dream, and keep bees, and live on honey street
have been wondering why, reading own past words, christian mythos has such a prominent place. fewer explicit references to more traditionally islamic themes (buraq & miraj, creation's hymns, time) than logos and golgotha, the via dolorosa and iconodoules; even earlier currents, midas and galatea, valkyries and cronus. grand ensconced compendium of western lore - which i'm entirely comfortable with. wanting better reasons than "i've spent years of my life in a liberal post-christian world" - it's deeper than that, i think. maybe that language has its own reality, and so because i mostly write in englisch it is the natural thing to draw on this, western, backgrounder/ if & when i eventually get to the point where i am as familiar in arabic, farsi, urdu, it would no longer be the natural thing? another ethos. and maybe to draw family-associations between language-groupings - skimming selected poems of ruben dario, octavio paz, they refer to abelard and philomela, so it is not just language but the cultures built around these languages, with historical roots; this then would also allow for social factors, today's globalization, etc. so what then the reason englisch is unique, universal & cheapening?
..again, minimalist notes.
point of interest: "it was not clear why the building was a target" - except that of course it is: a headquarters of the MKB is located in the middle of the state tv/radio buildings, with a hospital and the university and so on nearby. any attack on the MKB then would seem like an attack on civil institutions.
little for housekeeping-news. hair is now sweeping down to my eyes, and devouring mosquitoes induce self-pity, and sunspots attack after shovel-work, and a cut half-severing a fingertip grows together. the usual complaints, the usual glories.
gone from mystery into mystery
gone from daylight into night
another step deeper into darkness
closer to the light
interview with ahmedinajad. you may or may not agree with what he says, but at the least you have to admire his ability to step and sidestep.
lastly, via deenport - shadhili hadra with shaykh 'abdur rahman ash-shaghouri.
qala Llahu 'l maliku'l akbar
inna a'tayna ka'l kauthar
said...
Assalamu 3alaikum,
Regarding the "Shadhili Hadra", where does this come from? Is this way of Zhikr established in the Qur'an or Sunnah? (i.e did the prophet - peace and blessings be upon him - do this?).
I'm curious, and at the same time, disturbed and uneasy about this whole thing.
Please keep me in your du'a.
Assalaamu 3alaikum.
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we need a leitmotif for things such as the above. that first bit from Holst's 'Mars' perhaps?
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basit said...
..somehow, i feel this will be a grand expose. dear me.
j - hah. i was thinking maybe a march by elgar, but you mention mars... it's more sinister than elgar could ever be.
belal - wa 'alaykumussalam. to make things perfectly clear i haven't watched the whole thing, only the beginning - i'm (sadly, it is a mild tragedy) on dialup, and so was planning on checking out the rest of it when at some point in the city.
and i do not mean to make this post a place for debate. it's been discussed before, by people far more qualified than either of us, and will probably be discussed again.
...however, brief notes from my readings:
- it *is* a relatively recent phenomenon, has only (in this /specific/ form) been in place for a few hundred years. so no, the prophet (s) did not perform this form of dhikr. however:
- the ruling on an issue is from its principle. specific forms of the practice may deviate from the principle, but one does not rule against the whole issue because of the specific practice. the question is generally on the hadra as a form of dhikr, not on the specific practice with shaykh 'abd al-rahman, rahimahullah. (or, in other words, just because some so-called "sufis" do obviously impermissible things and call them "dhikr" doesn't mean by itself that actual hadras are wrong)
- gatherings of dhikr (ie, remembrance in a group) is obviously encouraged. (but i can go into details if you want.)
- if the hadra contains something haram, then attending it is forbidden. if on the other hand it does not, its focus is Remembrance and Praise, and salam upon the prophet (s), then it cannot be forbidden. this includes cases where movement is involved - imam ibn hajar al-haytami, for example, said specifically that gatherings of dhikr involving movement were allowed according to many great scholars, incl. shaykh al-islam ibn abdussalam.
- imam as-suyuti was asked if it were permissible to reject/repudiate those who participated in such forms of dhikr. he said it was not, and, further, that the one who does repudiate the participants is mistaken.
- having said all that, i do agree that there is some controversy surrounding it, and not everyone is comfortable with it. i wasn't entirely comfortable either when i first came across it. the best thing i think in this case is to - while not rejecting it - simply not participate in it ones'self - to ease one's own heart.
anyways. long counter-post. keep me in your du'a too. (:
wasalam\\
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said...
Assalamu 3alaikum,
Jazaaka Allahu khairan for the response akhee. I'm sorry you had to do so over a dial-up connection.
I have very little knowledge of this subject and don't want to stir any debate. My main goal was to get some insight from you.
I'll follow your advice inshallah, and do what keeps my heart at ease.
BTW, what's with those stars you use in names? Are you just replacing random letters? I suspect it could be a secret code of some sort, but I am unable to decipher it. :)
Please keep me in your du'a akhee
Assalamu 3alaikum.
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basit said...
wasalam\ now it's my turn on the apologetics - i (prematurely) busted out the massiveresponse because i've heard that question or others like it too many times from people who seem like they only want to argue..
there's also a beauty in the hadra one can't quite rationally explain, or catch in videos.
(stars in names are to avoid search-crawlers)
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said...
shaykh al-islam 'izz ibn abdussalam was maliki.
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basit said...
yeah, and imam as-suyuti was shafi'i. and i quoted both. so eat that. (:
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said...
stop causing division within the ummah.
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basit said...
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yeah...well, shaykh al-islam 'izz ibn abdussalam is known as "sultan al-'ulama"...so eat that. (:
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said...
Basit, you're effin crayyy-zee.
I read your blog to keep myself humble and remind myself how stupid I am :|
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basit said...
anon1 - well...ibn 'abidin was known as "khatimatu'l-muhaqqiqin". so, yeah, the ball's in your court again.
anon2 - bah
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basit said...
i thought of some more: shaykh ibrahim al-ya'qubi was maliki, then became hanafi.
a roommate in sham did the same deal.
according to other old roommates, the mahdi will probably be hanafi.
and various scholars say the hanafi school'll last longer than the rest.
just give up. (:
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speaking of conversion...
imam al-ghazali was shafi`and became maliki...and he was hujatul-islam...
oh...and imam shafi was maliki before he was anything else...so eat that (:
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basit said...
the mahdi, though, will return to establish the reign of peace and justice.
and pave the way for jesus son of mary^as.
besides, imam shafi'i studied with an-nu'man, you know that. who himself was known as imam ul-a'imma.
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said...
maliki prayer looks cooler than that of the hanafites.
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basit said...
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