and then our exile

Sunday, June 19, 2005 at 9:05 a.m.

 Anonymous said...

"perfect Master"

good ol' heretical Sufis.  

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 basit said...

good ol' judgmental muntaqa.

you must open your heart.  

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 Anonymous said...

Do open my heart please and explain the concept of a "perfect Master" or Saint or whatever =)  

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 Salwa said...

“saint” and "perfect master" …two different things.  

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 basit said...

it says "So the inheritors of the Masters of the Sufi orders, especially the Naqshbandi Sufi Order, inherited the initiation in every century."
--why are the naqshbandis specificallized? representin', there.

something interesting i read a few weeks ago, and j said at a restaurant a few days ago: that one can reach wilayah (muntaqa's "Sainthood") without necessarily being part of formal tasawwuf, but this ain't true of ma'rifah, for which one would need the murshid kamil (perfect Master) as a guide.

we'll talk about this when i come back. iA.  

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 Salwa said...

naqshabandis are everywhere akhi! we even have some here in deadmonton--although i don’t associate with them (for reasons).

but na'am. we talk about this when you come back iA.
you should read more of sidi ahmed zarruq's writings...because he was (they say) shadhili...but he have some interesting things to say in his "qawaaid" (see if you can get your hands on it--it very, very good mashAllah). and plus. he north african, and you know how i love me my north africans! :D  

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 basit said...

...i bought it a few weeks ago, opened it once, put it on the shelf and have not seen it again.

i have many books i want to cart home and read "when i have" "spare" "time". i'll have so much spare time when i get back. (wince)  

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